In this episode…

…we talk about if we are looking at a paradigm shift for humanity and society in terms of money and economic models and incentives? And if so, how and in what way it could affect banking and the role of the banks? A philosophical discussion and deep dive around forces that could provoke and challenge the current order and money in society. Nicolas invited Tomas Björkman and Indy Johar to talk about their views on the challenges this civilization is facing and what they think is necessarily to transform into a sustainable society.

Hosts and guests

Host: Nicolas Moch, Head of SEBx

Guest: Tomas Björkman, applied philosopher and social entrepreneur with a background from the finance industry tomas_b@mac.com

Guest: Indy Johar, architect by training and an explorative practitioner in the means of system change & the dark matter design of civic infrastructure finance, outcomes, and governance. indy@darkmatterlabs.org